SAN ANTONIO -

The San Antonio Police Officers Association and Professional Firefighters Association have come together in response to City Manager Sheryl Sculley's claims that their pensions will consume nearly the entire general fund by 2031.

They are seeking salary history and benefits for the city manager and other top positions to provide the public with a look at the salary growth of top officials compared to salary increases of public safety employees, which they claim is roughly 3 percent annually.

"We don't want to go on assumptions," said current Firefighter Association President Christopher Steele, an active district chief. "That's why I say her (argument) is fantasy -- fiction -- and ours is fact. We want the data so we can present the facts."

But Steele and police association leader Detective Mike Helle said getting that information has taken longer than expected. 

Open records requests from as far back as November 2013 have not been approved. An inquiry into the delays was not answered as of Friday afternoon.

Helle argued that Sculley's data used an outdated model based on population instead of departmental needs with regards to growth. 

A third-party independent study found that the pension's growth would not cause added stress to the general fund but rising health care costs would be an issue. Helle said their collective bargaining agreement has always allowed opportunities for discussion.

"Not one time in the eight years it's been there, and it's been there since Cheryl Sculley's been in office, has she ever come to us and said, 'Hey guys, we need to sit down because we think there's a problem,'" said Helle.

Following Sculley's August remarks, the city created an Legacy Task Force to examine ways the city could reduce budget items. 

The task force is expected to present all of its recommendations to the City Council on Feb. 19. 

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